Thursday, September 15, 2011 - 6:08 PM
Maen Rashid Areikat, the PLO representative to Washington, told The Cable today that stories claiming he called for a Palestinian state free of Jews are a "fabrication."
The Daily Caller was the first to report Areikat's remarks, made at a Wednesday breakfast with reporters sponsored by the Christian Science Monitor. Areikat was responding to a question by Daily Caller reporter Jamie Weinstein, who asked whether he imagined that Jews could have a political role in a future Palestinian state.
"Well, you know, I personally still believe as a first step we need to be totally separated and we can contemplate these issues in the future. But after the experience of the last 44 years of military occupation and all the conflict of friction, I think it would be in the best interests of the two peoples to be separated first," Areikat said, according to a recording of the session provided to The Cable.
The Daily Caller headlined the story, "Palestinian ambassador reiterates call for a Jew-free Palestinian state," and a similar story in USA Today was entitled, "PLO ambassador says Palestinian state should be free of Jews." The comments also evoked condemnations from top Israeli officials, including Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman, who accused the Palestinian Authority of adopting a Judenrein policy, referring to the Nazi drive to cleanse Germany of any Jews.
"It's not a misquotation or out of context, it's a total fabrication," Areikat said in an interview today. "I never mentioned the word ‘Jews,' I never said that Palestine has to be free of Jews."
Areikat said that he stands by his call for "separation," but that he intended to refer to the separation of the Israel and Palestinian peoples, not the members of the two religions. Areikat also said that the idea of "separation" is an Israeli idea and that Israeli officials including Defense Minister Ehud Barak have endorsed it.
"Israeli people includes Christians, Jews, Muslims, Druze... When I say the Israeli people, I mean everybody. This is not a religious conflict, this is not against Jews. We want to be a secular state," Areikat said.
"This was a total set-up," Areikat said, adding that Weinstein followed him to his car after the breakfast meeting. "He followed me to my car and asked me if I would allow homosexuals to live in Palestine. I didn't know he was trying to implicate me. It was all premeditated."
Actually, it was the Weekly Standard's John McCormack who asked Areikat the question about homosexuals. Areikat responded that "this is an issue that's beyond my [authority]," McCormack reported.
This is the second time in as many years that Areikat has been mired in controversy related to the future status of Jews in a Palestinian state. In an October 2010 interview with Tablet Magazine, he said, "We need to separate. We have to separate.... I'm not saying to transfer every Jew, I'm saying transfer Jews who, after an agreement with Israel, fall under the jurisdiction of a Palestinian state."
The war of words comes only days before Areikat, Netanyahu, and hundreds of other world leaders will converge on New York for the opening session of the U.N. General Assembly, where a top issue will be the PLO's plan to seek member-state status by appealing to the U.N. Security Council.
State Department Acting Special Envoy David Hale and the National Security Council's Dennis Ross are in the West Bank this week, meeting with top Palestinian officials in a last-ditch attempt to convince the Palestinians not to go through with their plan.
Areikat said the action at the United Nations would probably fall on Sept. 20, and the Obama administration was unlikely to dissuade the Palestinians from moving forward.
"There is a sense of urgency on the part of the administration," said Areikat. "They understand the implications. But unless they really offer something tangible it will be like the [unsuccessful] last visit that [Hale and Ross] had last week."
Here is the full exchange between Weinstein and Areikat:
JW: What kind of state do you perceive the independent Palestinians to be? For instance, do you imagine that in an independent Palestinian state, a Jew could be elected mayor of Ramallah?
MA: I haven't seen the draft resolution but I can assure you the resolution will be calling for the establishment of a Palestinian state in the West Bank, the Gaza Strip, with East Jerusalem as its capital. And it will definitely include also that it will live side by side in peace and security with Israel...
JW: To my point, do you foresee in an independent Palestinian state, for instance, a member of the Jewish minority there, if they existed, being elected mayor of Ramallah?
MA: Well, you know, I personally still believe as a first step we need to be totally separated and we can contemplate these issues in the future. But after the experience of the last 44 years of military occupation and all the conflict of friction, I think it would be in the best interests of the two peoples to be separated first.
Listen to the tape for yourself here:
UPDATE: Weinstein wrote into The Cable to respond to Areikat's charge that Weinstein followed him to his car:
I followed him to his car not to trap the ambassador, but to give him an opportunity to clarify his comments. I asked two times while at his car whether 'Jews,' not Israelis, would be allowed in the West Bank or Gaza in a future Palestinian state and he said two times that they had to be separated. To frame it like I was trying to trap him is absurd. It was just the opposite. I was giving him the opportunity to clarify his comments. I only found out later that he had said the same thing before in an interview with Tablet magazine.
I don't want to be one of those guys crying "Zionist media!!!"... but leave it to our newspapers to sensationalize this story way out of proportion. Ten bucks says this incident is brought to Congress by some lobbyist as an indication of why we need to support Israel no matter what, when they've killed more American and UN personnel than Hezbollah or Hamas ever has.
Read the full exchange and you will see that he is correct.
He is CLEARLY referring to the end of this endless occupation, and that means the "two peoples" he is referring to are:
The Occupied and The Occupiers.
Palestine is not being occupied by "the Jewish people", it is being occupied "the state of Israel", and that means that:
The Occupied are "the Palestinians"
The Occupiers are "the Israelis".
And that means that the "two peoples" he is referring to are "the Israelis and the Palestinians", and not "the Jews and the Arabs".
Why should Palesine be different?
All other Arab countries have ethnically cleansed themselves of the 1 million Jews who lived in these countries. In addition, all territory seized by the Palestinians in the 1948 war (such as The old city of Jerusalem and Gush etzion) were also ethnically cleansed of Jews. Why should Palestine be any different?
ur observation will come true.insha allah.
On of those embarrassing little bits of history for you. Israeli secret Agents set off bombs in many of those Arab countries that had a Jewish population, and then made certain to let it be known that the Jews had done the dirty deed. That lead to pogroms that forced most of the Jews out of those countries, INTO ISRAEL. It was an incredibly cynical way to gain Jews in the new Israel while forcing Jews out of countries where they had lived peacefully for many generations. In Iran, there are about 30,000 Jews and they get very angry when Israel tries to get them to emigrate to Israel. Their answer is, "We are Iranian first and Jewish second".
I hope this crisis will over soon.
March 2000 Rabbi Menachem Schneerson, leader of Chabad-Lubavitch:
“The difference between a Jewish and a non-Jewish person stems from the common expression: ‘Let us differentiate.’ Thus, we do not have a case of profound change in which a person is merely on a superior level. Rather, we have case of ‘let us differentiate’ between totally different species. This is what needs to be said about the body: the body of a Jewish person is of a totally different quality from the body of (members) of all nations of the world… A non-Jew’s entire reality is only vanity. The entire creation (all non-jews) exists only for the sake of the Jews.”
"The terms 'democracy' or 'democratic' are totally absent from the Declaration of Independence. This is not an accident. The intention of Zionism was not to bring democracy, needless to say. It was solely motivated by the creation in Eretz-Isrel of a Jewish state belonging to all the Jewish people and to the Jewish people alone. This is why any Jew of the Diaspora has the right to immigrate to Israel and to become a citizen of Israel."- Ariel Sharon, May 28, 1993 edition of Yedioth Ahronoth.
In September 2002, Arundhati Roy wrote, “Come September”
yes muslims are great because they like to have freedom of religion,freedom to spread their religion,freedom to convert others to muslims,and demand rights equal to the majority community when muslims are less in number,muslims want american,european ,canadian citizenships BUT they give none of the above in countries where muslims are in majority.why is no idiot in western society questioning this inequality.i challenge americans or for that matter any non muslim to preach his or her religion in saudi arabia or iran or kuwait or pakistan and see what happens, ok atleast why dont some americans try to get citizenship in saudi or any middle east country.even israel treats its muslim citizens equal to its jewish citizens.you westners beware of muslim appeasement by your leaders.why dont you westners demand equal rights in islamic countries or deny it to those who only demand great rights to themselves but deny it to non muslims.will the muslim citizens of western countries favour westners to get same rights as they enjoy in west given to christians ,if they go to islamic countries,will they stand with you if you demand citizenship of saudi arabia.if the world can have muslim countries then let this world have specific NON-MUSLIM countries where every one is a free man or woman except muslims ,where muslims will be treated as how non-muslims get treated in middle east.why dont all western countries have a policy of not giving citizen ship rights to citizens of countries who want to migrate to the west.
but do not grant the same in their countries
why no one is responding to my observation
any one? ?
The obstacle to such a simple – and morally unimpeachable – solution is, of course, intellectual and psychological. Traumatized by the Holocaust and perceived insecurity as a Jewish island in an Arab sea, Israelis have immense psychological problems in coming to grips with the practical impossibility of sustaining forever what most of mankind views as a racial-supremacist, settler-colonial regime founded upon the ethnic cleansing of an indigenous population.bestsnowblower This leaves Israel in control of more than half of the West Bank and all of East Jerusalem. With the Israeli position largely unchallenged by the international community, the only route to a two-state settlement will be through pressure on the weaker Palestinian side.
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