The top Republican and Democrat foreign aid leaders in the House of Representatives are warning the Palestinian Authority (PA) that U.S. aid will be withheld if the Palestinians seek recognition of a Palestinian state at the United Nations in September.

"We write to reiterate our serious concerns about your intentions to pursue recognition of a Palestinian state at the United Nations," reads a July 11 letter sent to Palestinian Authority (PA) President Mahmoud Abbas by the leaders of the House Appropriations State and Foreign Operations subcommittee Kay Granger (R-TX) and Nita Lowey (D-NY), obtained by The Cable.

"It has been the longstanding belief of the United States government that the path to a true and lasting peace between Palestinians and Israelis will come only as a result of direct negotiations. We write to reaffirm that belief and warn of the severe consequences of abandoning it."

The Obama administration has been clear that it doesn't support the Palestinian plan to seek a vote on statehood at the United Nations in September, but it so far hasn't spelled out any consequences for the Palestinians if they should choose to do so. Congress, on the other hand, is doing a lot to make those consequences known. On July 7, the House passed a resolution opposing the statehood plan by a 407-6 vote. The Senate passed the same resolution unanimously.

In May, 29 senators promised to cut off all U.S. assistance to the PA if it formed a unity government with Hamas. The United States gave the PA about $550 million in aid in fiscal 2011, a mixture of project funding and direct cash to the government.

The head of the Palestine Liberation Organization mission in Washington, Maen Rashid Areikat, told The Cable in May that the plan to seek recognition at the United Nations was not final and could be scuttled if negotiations resume. He also said that the unity government would not change its policies regarding the peace process at least until Palestinian legislative and presidential elections, which are tentatively scheduled for May 2012.

The House plans to mark up its fiscal 2012 appropriations bill on July 27, and several foreign aid accounts are under scrutiny. And following the apparently fruitless meeting this week of the Quartet members here in Washington, the path back to direct negotiations remains unclear -- a fact that will only further endanger U.S. assistance to the PA.

Already, Congress has been taking a harder look at funding for the Palestinian territories. Multiple Hill sources said that a recent routine request for program funding for USAID staffers vetting Palestinian aid projects was held up by the House Foreign Affairs Chairwoman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-FL) for weeks before finally getting approval.

"American assistance has always been predicated upon Palestinian leaders' commitment to resolve all outstanding issues through direct negotiations," the congresswomen wrote. "Current and future aid will be jeopardized if you abandon direct negotiations and continue your current efforts."

 

STACYX

11:59 PM ET

July 15, 2011

Of course withholding this

Of course withholding this money would be disastrous and only result in a deterioration of the security situation. The PA would be unable to pay its security forces, public employees etc. and their already tenuous political situation visa vi the Palestinian citizens in the West Bank would be even more tenuous.

Lets be honest, the Palestinians will likely end up not going to the UN for this very reason- they are overly reliant on US $$$ and that is why they have been little more than US-Israeli puppets. There is a reason Washington likes Abbas-Fayyad- they don't rock the boat too much. Here we have a rare situation where the Palestinian leadership is actually doing something on it's own, without Washington and Israel's pre-approval and look at our reaction. The Obama admin. must understand that after the leak of the Palestine Papers (which the US media dutifully ignored) and the changes resulting from the Arab Spring, the PA can no longer be seen merely as a Palestinian rubber stamp on the ongoing entrenchment of the Occupation, particularly with respect to settlements.

If Saudi Arabia, the UAE etc. actually gave a damn about the Palestinians they would throw a lot of money to the PA to send a message to the United States- essentially, that they are tired of the US and the Quartet's useless pandering to Israel and that if they won't fund the PA, the Arab states will. But of course, they won't do that.

I'm wondering why Josh Rogin and his fellow State Dept. press colleagues never really challenge the State Dept. about this- given how much time and diplomatic effort Clinton & Co. have put into preventing a successful UN bid, you would think their claim that the Palestinians are unfairly engaging in "unilateral actions" would be questioned- Isn't ongoing settlement construction unilateral action on the part of Israel, given it essentially changes the facts on the ground and helps ensure there will never be a contiguous Palestinian state? There wasn't a peep from the press corp. about the Israeli announcement last week that they were breaking with past agreements with Obama, Bush, etc. and expropriating uncultivated Palestinian land:

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/israel-expropriates-palestinian-land-in-order-to-legalize-west-bank-settlement-1.372023

The way the State Dept. responds to Israeli actions vs. Palestinian actions is so hypocritical and yet the press rarely questions them on this.

And the State Dept. press seemed to accept the flimsy rationale that the anti-boycott law was an "internal matter" despite the fact that it basically is further proof that the two state solution is dead, because Israel killed it. Read here for more:

http://972mag.com/boycott-law-proves-israels-one-state-vision/

Also, the State Dept. ALWAYS speaks out on laws passed by other nations. Why should Israel be different?

 

IAN

4:48 AM ET

July 16, 2011

This is why they are doing it,

because the US is once again showing its "impartiality". They are essentially forcing Paletinians to look elsewhere because the US is unable to reign in Israel's government. So Palestine looks to provide itself some measure of authenticity via the world stage, and the US moves very quickly to shut them down hard. That's not exactly helpful. If Palestine had a state, perhaps they would be less willing to attack Israel when having to deal with their own internal national problems and knowing that it would become a state vs. state war instead of some sort of formless intifada that's easily deniable by a stateless government.

 

NORBOOSE

4:07 PM ET

July 17, 2011

MS, what is our goal?

If we want to hurt them for being mean to us, you are correct. However, if our goal is to solve the problem, this is harmful. You cant treat large collective entities like people, the dynamics are different. During slavery, it would have been wrong for a slave rebellion to kill every white person they saw. Everyone is responsible for their own actions, and no one else's (If A's actions influenced B's actions, then A is responsible for influencing B, but B is still responsible for doing what they did). Justice only applies to the individual. To punish an entire population, under any circumstances, is morally atroicious, an inherently evil act.

 

NORBOOSE

4:30 PM ET

July 17, 2011

What I anticipate from MS

MS, at least for me, this is not about proving I'm right. It is about testing my ideas against others' in the goal of improving my own understanding of the world. If you can maturly respond to me on those grounds, I look forward to a productive conversation. However, I must premeptively respond to any attempts to justify yourself using your alleged combat experience, with a question. Have you ever killed a person, marine sniper, a real human being you knew as a person? Someone whose name you knew, who you had talked to? And then, shot, up close? Been there by him, as he died over a couple minutes? Talked to people who had known knew him and knew you? Some of whom knew that you had killed him, and others who hadnt? Been forced to see the moral ambiguity, as you saw that he was personally, not an evil human being? Known that he was doing what he thought he ought to do, and understanding that the line of thinking had some legitimacy? Came to the conclusion that you did the best thing you could have done for the situation you were in, but accepted that it sure as hell wasnt some saintly heroic act to brag about? As far as I'm concerned, you could kill a thousand anonymous grunts on the battlefield through a scope, and all it proves is that youre a good marksman. I apologize if you werent going to go there, but I could see it happening, and I got all pissed off. Im already kind of ashamed for going off and writing all of this, but I might as well post it now. Go ahead and don't believe me, I wont offer any proof. Im actually surprised by how little I care if you outright consider me a liar. Well, now Im all agitated, think Im gonna get up and go hug the misses for several continuous minutes.

 

NORBOOSE

8:00 PM ET

July 17, 2011

I'm impressed.

Your most recent writings show a sudden, dramatic upturn. I wont get too detailed on my moral philosophy, but to set some basic foundation, in my opinion, "good" means that something is intended to ultimately produce the most net good. I have never been a pacifist, or one for any sort of absolutes. If I had the chance to, say, kill Stalin in 1920, but to do so, I would need to strangle a couple of nuns to death, I would absolutely do it. The act would be good, because it was intended to and ultimately caused more good than bad to happen. However, the act of killing the nuns was still bad, it is simply balanced out, it doesnt means the nuns deserved to die. This plays into the idea of collective justice. It can be somewhat acceptable as a matter of practical necesity. We cant pick out every German and determine how much they facilitated/tolerated/resisted the Nazi's, so some level of collective punishment is better than the only other option; letting millions of Nazi-facilitators get away. However, I firmly believe that, in the eye's of God/the universe/whatever, people are held entirely responsible for everything they have done, and nothing else. We humans sometimes need to practice collective justice to get as close to the best outcome as we are capable, but the German who passively resisted the Nazis, or the Palestinian who just tries to get by, but gets hurt by collective actions is like the nun in front of Stalin. They are having an injustice done to them, and we must recognize this, while at the same time knowing that we are creating some injustices to prevent worse ones. In this case, cutting off aid needlessly hurts good and innocent people. It wont get results. Lots of good/innocent (In my mind, "good" people and "innocent" people are very different, but it is a bad thing when either type suffers) Palestinians will suffer, not to bring about peace, but so American congressmembers can show how they support Israel. Any damage to Hamas and Fatah will be entirely incidental.

On a side note, I dont care about the "shooting at us" distinction. If anything, the best way, morally, to fight a war, would be to personally kill everyone important to the enemy, the leaders. Combatant or non-combatant, if someone is useful to the enemy, and their death/capture would be useful to us, they are a perfectly legitimate target in my eyes. Commanders, public speakers, scientists, bureacrats, politicians, business owners, whatever. Ive never believed that an angry, stupid teenager who's been pressured/manipulated/coerced into serving is somehow a morally better target than a high-ranking, highly competent technocrat, just because he's carrying a gun.

 

NORBOOSE

8:05 PM ET

July 17, 2011

We declared war on the societies bc we needed to

Once again, it was a neccesity. If we would have tried to just target the parties, we would have lost the war. If, however, FDR had two magical buttons, where one of them would magically kill every guilty party-member/officer/facilitator, and the other would destroy their societies, he would have been a monster to choose to push the second one.

 

NORBOOSE

12:23 PM ET

July 18, 2011

But we shouldnt dislike it

It wont hurt us. Israel doesnt need to negotiate, it holds all the cards. It offers deals that the palestinians simply cannot accept. There are no real direct talks to turn to. Israel is ok with Palestine staying how it is, and Palestine has nothing to barter with. Israel hasnt been interested in real negotiating for over a decade.

 

STACYX

6:10 PM ET

July 16, 2011

The two state solution is

The two state solution is dead. The U.S. government and Israel killed it a long time ago. People like Dennis Ross serve only to further entrench the Occupation while giving cover to the Israeli govt because so long as the public thinks there is a peace process they/we will accept the continued colonization of the occupied territories. If Obama had ever been serious about Mideast peace he wouldn't have brought Ross in.

 

IDIOTPRAYER84

9:02 PM ET

July 16, 2011

Pound Foolish

The US would be shooting itself in the foot if it cut aid to Palestine. As others have mentioned, the same institutions that have helped create law and order would crumble. This would force the Palestinians to go to regimes not so friendly to US interests for money. Iran, China, Russia might step into replace US aid. The US's credibility is already in taters in the region so if the money is gone what leverage would the US have?

These so-called friends of Israel are the ones who are leading Israel to further isolation and its eventual destruction. Israel has the most to gain from a Palestinian state. If the two state solution is no longer viable, what's the alternative? Apartheid. Deportation just like Hitler tried to do to the Jews in Germany?

 

IDIOTPRAYER84

10:41 PM ET

July 17, 2011

Jordanians aren't Palestinians

If Palestinian were Jordanians, why have they stayed in refugee camps since 1948? Life in these camps isn't nice and comfortable. Most Palestinians were born in what is now Israel. Why should someone who was born in Jerusalem have less right than someone like Avigdor Lieberman who was born in the USSR? Why doesn't he go back to his country?

 

GAHGEER

12:05 PM ET

July 19, 2011

Don't waste your time

For Sniper, who also has got an Arab nickname on this forum, wants one thing: to cleanse Palestine of its Arabs and to shove all the Jews of the world into there so that his Jesus Christ returns.

He is not Israeli, nor Jewish. All he cares about is the Messiah's return and in this quest, he'd justify ethnic cleansing (Pals have Jordan) or even hit back at his country-fellows by holding comparisons between Israel's ethnic cleansing and America's cleansing of its indigenous populations.

 

NORBOOSE

6:00 PM ET

July 17, 2011

I increasingly resent Israel

I never started out as an anti-Israel guy. However, the more I learn about the Middle East, the less sympathetic I am to Israel. In my opinion, Israel in the 60's and 70's was largely in the right. Only in the last 15 years has it grown ever less democratic, more irrationally aggressive, and more of a strategic liability to us. For example, all this "Jewish state" nonsense. A true democracy cannot have an official ethnic identity. Eventually it will have to make a choice of one over the other, and the other with grow to irrelevence. I hate the way it manipulates our national government in a way that no other nation approaches. Israel will go under rapid change sometime in the next few decades, either becoming a better democracy, being destroyed, or becoming a blatantly oppressive state. Positive change is still possible, as its not like Israel has gone full tilt rogue yet. Realistically, though, the most I think I can hope for is that there is no massive conventional war, no WMD's used, and when the stakes are right in our face and way too damn high to dick around with political games, we know how to untie ourselves from a sinking ship.

 

NORBOOSE

12:16 PM ET

July 18, 2011

You dont think Israel gets special treatment?

There are too many examples for me to bother with, but you really don't think we give Israel exceptional treatment, compared to our other allies? If you really think that, then, theres not much to argue. However, if you recognize that we give Israel crazily good treatment, there must be something that sets it apart. We treat it better than the UK, our most longstanding, and useful ally, Japan, a close ally with the most of our economic interests tied up in it, or India, probably the most important ally to our long-term future. Not only are these three more important, they dont cause us nearly as much trouble, and their standing in the world is far better than Israel's. Why arent we completely sided with India against Pakistan? What makes Israel worth the special treatment?

 

JBIRDMENJ

7:53 PM ET

July 18, 2011

Special treatment

I just read that in Tunesia's new constitution, relations with Israel are permanently prohibited. Americans and others who travel to Israel have to either obtain two passports or have Israel stamp a visa on a separate piece of paper, because almost all Arab counties will not allow anyone in who has an Israel visa in their passport. Many Arab diplomats will not shake the hand of an Israeli counterpart or speak to an Israeli. Israel is boycotted by many Arab countries. Entire UN committes exist just to persecute Israel. Palestinian refugees have their own separate UN refugee organization, just to single out Israel.

These are the reasons why the United States provides a special relationship to Israel. They see Israel being treated unfairly.

 

GAHGEER

12:09 PM ET

July 19, 2011

Actually, maybe the USA should really cut off its aid

and use the money to help create dozens of jobs for Americans.

 

PKAISER

9:40 AM ET

July 26, 2011

Drowned in the Tide of History

It is a shameful and sad that the United States will not be supporting the Palestinian application for UN membership.

Ethnic cleansing is a crime against humanity even if implemented by a people who have suffered the same fate in the past. Foreign policy should not be based on guilt feelings that are over 50 years old. It is our duty as world citizens to oppose injustice no matter by whom it is caused.

 

PKAISER

10:13 AM ET

July 26, 2011

Marinesniper's Poll

Does this surprise anyone?

If the Germans had succeeded in their "Lebensraum" policy in Eastern Europe I suspect that most of the original inhabitants and their descendants would not have accepted it.

 

JJMOON

12:24 PM ET

July 28, 2011

We Americans speak of

We Americans speak of freedoms, tolerance, and diversity, yet our government makes the Zionist occupation possible against our will, with our tax money, and making us accomplices in constant murders that the Zionist regime is committing including murders of our own American citizens (search on youtube for “Rachel Corrie” video of Zionist bulldozer crushing her to death). I am ashamed as an American that our politicians are controlled by the Zionist regime to such a terrifying extent. Tens of senators, state representatives, and ambassadors to foreign countries are Jewish. While I recognize that many are honest and against the Zionist regime, I am concerned about the fair representation of our will at the highest levels of our government. Just look on Wikipedia for “List of Jewish American politicians,” and visit prince.org/msg/105/271100 to discover that all five Federal Reserve chairmen/chairwomen are Jewish, and almost all (9 out of 12) regional Fed chairmen/chairwomen are also Jewish. I never like to generalize, but Jews comprise only 2% of our population and they have so much power in the government and almost absolute power over our money supply and economic polices. I am just not comfortable that all Americans are being represented properly especially not on the Palestine occupation issue that I know most people do not support judging by the comments against the Zionist regime I hear everywhere.
Urge your state representatives and senators to immediately stop any remaining support for the Zionist regime. Much of the support already stopped because of the increasing pressure on this issue, but we Americans need to completely distance ourselves from this oppressive regime and stop being accomplices in its murders! The world is also reacting. Who would want to be remembered in history as an accomplice to ruthless occupation? Many countries, companies, and countless moral individuals have already successfully implemented no relations with the Zionist government and others are implementing the same policy as we speak. Not travel there, not buy anything from it, not trade with it, not communicate with it, etc. Also do the same with any country that supports it because the Zionist government only survives because of its external supporters

 

JUSTINANDREWS

1:38 PM ET

July 28, 2011

Imagine in the current time

Imagine in the current time if France would want to create its own state in Michigan and separate it from the U.S. French are a minority in Michigan so democratic vote on the separation would not work because they would be outvoted by the rest of the Americans living in Michigan. So imagine if they had a historic opportunity when the U.S. is at its weakest and militarily occupy a part of Michigan and impose a regime where only French can vote and all the others who lived there cannot. Furthermore, the occupiers rename the occupied part of Michigan as the “French State” where not only that Americans are not welcome, but they are systematically expelled over time creating huge refugee camps in nearby states of Indiana and Ohio. Imagine then that at that point in history the artificial organization called the United Nations is full of French supporters and somehow that makes the occupation “legal” and Americans who fight for their homes in the occupied part of Michigan are labeled as terrorists. The occupation is a part of a careful log-term plan (i.e. Zionism) of acquiring land by French, so literally days after the occupation is implemented (what a coordinated plan!) the occupiers import millions of other French from all over the world to increase their population in Michigan from around 100,000 to over 5 Million in a short period. Then Americans resist and fight to regain the occupied part of Michigan, but Russia steps in, sends weapons, cash, and everything else the occupiers need to sustain the occupation.

What do you think all of us Americans would feel? We would hate French first, and then all of their supporters (Russia in this analogy) that make the occupation of our land possible. Still questioning yourself why people in the Middle East and other parts of the world do not like us? Because Zionist controlled our government, not the people, supported the very exact scenario as described above against our will and with our tax money making us accomplices in this unspeakable crime. The scenario that would outrage all of us Americans and make us fight against it if it happened in Michigan or anywhere else in the U.S.

This comment is not intended to make derogatory remarks about France and Russia. It is merely used as an example of how Americans would be outraged and fight back in the same situation as the forced establishment of the Zionist regime and its occupation of Palestine.
Urge your state representatives and senators to immediately stop any remaining support for the Zionist regime. Much of the support already stopped because of the increasing pressure on this issue, but we Americans need to completely distance ourselves from this oppressive regime and start actively opposing it.

You can definitely copy, repost, or email mine to anyone including lobbying senators, state representatives and any other public officials who shape our country’s foreign policies

 

SANDTIME

3:00 PM ET

July 28, 2011

Israeli supporter

Who Controls the U.S. Federal Reserve System (Fed)?

The Fed is divided into two parts: the Federal Reserve Board of Governors, located in Washington DC, and the Federal Reserve District Banks, located throughout the United States. If you examine the official website of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors, you will see that there are five members of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors. You will also see that all five of the board members are Jewish. This is a numerical representation of 100%. Why is this important? It’s important because Jews only constitute about 2% of the United States population. So the odds that all five members of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors would be Jewish are infinitesimally small. Here are the five members of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors:

Benjamin S. Bernanke - Jewish
Donald L. Kohn - Jewish
Kevin M. Warsh - Jewish
Randall S. Kroszner - Jewish
Frederic S. Mishkin - Jewish

Now, if you examine the presidents of the twelve Federal Reserve District Banks, you will discover a similar pattern of Jewish over-representation. Here is the section of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors’ website that lists the twelve Federal Reserve District Banks and their respective presidents:

FRB of Boston: Eric S. Rosengren - Jewish
FRB of New York: Timothy F. Geithner - Jewish
FRB of Philadelphia: Charles I. Plosser - Jewish
FRB of Richmond: Jeffrey M. Lacker - Jewish
FRB of St. Louis: James B. Bullard - Jewish
FRB of Minneapolis: Gary H. Stern - Jewish
FRB of Kansas City: Thomas M. Hoenig - Jewish
FRB of Dallas: Richard W. Fisher - Jewish
FRB of San Francisco: Janet L. Yellen - Jewish
FRB of Cleveland: Sandra Pianalto - gentile
FRB of Atlanta: Dennis P. Lockhart - gentile
FRB of Chicago: Charles L. Evans - gentile

This extreme numerical over-representation of Jews among the members of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors and the Federal Reserve District Bank presidents cannot be explained away as a coincidence or as the result of mere random chance. You must ask yourself how such an incredibly small and extremely unrepresentative minority religious group that only represents about 2% of the American population could so completely dominate the highest levels of the United States Fed?

 

AMBROSE ARRIGO

8:52 AM ET

August 13, 2011

House leaders to Palestine: seek U.N. recognition, forget foreig

A new program implemented on May 20th by the Palestinian Authority will precipitate cash payments and salaries to be made to Arab terrorists who are languishing in Israeli prisons. With the United States having provided more than $225 Million in foreign aid last year alone which is placed into the General Fund of the Palestinian government, the US government will have helped pay for terrorism in the Middle East region. A law published in the official Palestinian Authority Registry last month grants all Palestinians and Israeli Arabs imprisoned in Israel for terror crimes a monthly salary from the PA. The Arabic word the PA uses for this payment is "ratib," meaning "salary." The PA has reported that the US, the EU, France, Britain, Ireland, jenna jameson
, Norway, Japan, India and the World Bank have all given money to the PA for its general budget in 2010-2011. Such direct funding could be part of the "available sources" for terrorist salaries, or could free money elsewhere in the PA budget that could be used for these salaries. Unfortunately, this is not the only occurance of US foreign aid going directly, or circuitously to known terror organizations. Last week, President Obama initiated a plan to provide $3 Billion in cash and debt forgiveness to the Egyptian government, which in all likelihood will be controlled by the Muslim Brotherhood after the October elections. The United States through Nato has also been providing finance and support to Al Queda through their inflitration of the rebels in Libya. Since 2001, America has spent trillions of dollars fighting a war on terror, and giving up numerous liberties through programs created by Homeland Security and the Patriot Act. To now have the revelation that the government is playing both sides of the conflict, supporting those for and against terrorist activities, is a very disconcerting scenario for many Americans to comprehend. With the Palestinian Authorities new law and program to pay terrorists jailed in Isreali facilities using funds provided by the US under the guise of foreign aid, and the recent call by President Obama to stand more for the Palestinians over our Israeli allies on the desired peace process, Americans need to take a very close look at what is truly behind the war on terror 10 years after 9/11, and try to discover the true purposes behind our ongoing use of money, men, and strategic plan to fight it.

 

John Hudson reports on national security and foreign policy from the Pentagon to Foggy Bottom, the White House to Embassy Row, for The Cable.

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