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The White House and the State Department have been sending out different messages over the past few days regarding the U.S. position on Egypt. The seeming disparity between the focus and tone of remarks by officials from each part of the government has the Washington community wondering if there's a rift between Pennsylvania Avenue and Foggy Bottom and who's really in charge.

Internal disagreements on how closely to align the United States with Egyptian Vice President Omar Suleiman and his self-interested reform process emerged into public view last weekend, when Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told the Munich Security Conference that the U.S. is calling on the international community to support the process initiated by Suleiman. Clinton also had to distance herself from the comments of the State Department's chosen "envoy" Frank Wisner, who called for Mubarak to stay in power when he spoke at the conference in Munich.

Then, three days later, Vice President Joseph Biden spoke with Suleiman and gave him a list of further steps the U.S. wants him to take to open up the process, clearly expressing the official administration position that Suleiman's process is not acceptable in its current form.

On a conference call with reporters Wednesday, the NSC's Ben Rhodes said that the White House and the State Department have been "very closely aligned" and said that the difference between what Clinton said in Munich and what Biden told Suleiman three days later was a reflection of the changing circumstances on the ground.

"[Clinton] was just stating [in Munich] the matter of fact that Vice President Suleiman is the person conducting these negotiations for the government... Our response on Monday and Tuesday was in reaction to [Suleiman's] statements and it was to say that those statements alone were insufficient because they didn't constitute concrete action," Rhodes said. "I think it's entirely consistent to again state support for a process of negotiation... but to then hold the government accountable in terms of identifying the kinds of steps that we believe need to take place and that the Egyptian people are calling for."

Clinton's deputy chief of staff and new director for policy planning, Jake Sullivan, argued that the White House and the State Department have been aligned on the three core principles the U.S. government has been advocating for throughout the crisis: non-violence, respect for universal rights, and the need for political change.

"The theory of the case has remained consistent...and it's something on which the Secretary, the president and all of the other national security team members have been aligned on. And that's been true in the true public messaging. It's been true in the private messaging as well, " Sullivan said. "The situation is changing day by day even as we maintain the same basic core to our approach."

Experts close to the administration agreed with that to some degree, but said that mixed messaging from State and the White House was muddying communication of those core principles. The biases are based in institutional cultures, they said, and the gaps between the two camps are real.

"You had a similar dynamic in the later years of the Bush administration. There was President Bush and [NSC senior director] Elliott Abrams at the White House still trying to push the freedom agenda and Condoleezza Rice at the State Department very much trying to play it down," said Michelle Dunne of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. "The messages out of the administration have been extremely confusing and I think they realize that."

Abrams told The Cable that there are probably divisions in both places. "Where the State Department came out of its internal debate is in one place, where the White House has come out is in a different place," he said. "In the end it's about winning the hearts and minds, not of the Egyptian people, but of Obama, Biden, Clinton and Gates."

Deeper down in the administration, several official are playing influential roles in how the policy is being formed on each side. On the White House side, NSC Director Dan Shapiro, NSC Senior Director Samantha Power, and Rhodes have been leading the White House's outreach with the foreign policy expert community and held their latest meeting with experts on Tuesday.

Attendees reportedly included Dunne, Abrams, WINEP's Scott Carpenter, New America's Steve Clemons, CSIS's Jon Alterman, USIP's Dan Brumberg, Johns Hopkins' Fouad Ajami, and Human Rights Watch's Tom Malinowski.

Inside the State Department, Clinton is being advised on Egypt by several officials who have deep experience with Egypt, including Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs Bill Burns, who had suggested Wisner be sent to Cairo to deal with Mubarak, and Jeffrey Feltman, the assistant secretary of state for Near East Affairs, among others.

"The people whispering in her ears are people like Bill Burns, who is preoccupied with most often trying to save us from ourselves," Carpenter told The Cable. "Burns is legitimately concerned with how this all unfolds, but his interest is in preserving as much of the status quo with the current government of Egypt as possible. Meanwhile, the White House is saying that it's in our interest to build a new relationship because if we don't it's going to lead to something worse when the next government comes. So that leads them to conclude that they have to save State from themselves."

Feltman, a former ambassador to Lebanon, is increasingly seen as someone who understands the wider risks to U.S. foreign policy of being tougher on Suleiman and President Hosni Mubarak but is nevertheless looking for creative ways to square that circle.

"Some people on the inside say ‘Thank God for Feltman,'" because he's trying to prepare State for a changed relationship with Egypt after Mubarak leaves and trying to look over the horizon, Carpenter said.

On the specific policy toward Egypt, the difference between the current thinking at the White House as opposed to at the State Department surrounds exactly how much leeway Suleiman should have in setting up the committees that will negotiate and then oversee the political reform process leading up the elections.

On his blog the Washington Note, Clemons wrote that a senior White House official told him they want to see the emerging transitional process look like a "potluck dinner," where everyone brings their own ideas and has real power off the bat, rather than a hosted "dinner party" where Suleiman decides the guest list, the agenda, and thereby the results.

"The State Department is advocating a hosted dinner, where the power still resides with the incumbents," Clemons told The Cable. "That's not good enough for the White House."

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VALWAYNE

11:26 PM ET

February 10, 2011

Jimmy Carter?

Why are we surprised at the incompetence of the Obama administration on Egypt? If Obama reminds anyone of a previous President it surely has to be Jimmy Carter. If anything the Obama administration is less competent than the Carter administration. Let just hope that the Egyptian military can manage a transition without letting the terrorist takeover despite the White House!

 

SKEP41

12:08 AM ET

February 11, 2011

Ivy League Fumblers

We're now watching the Keystone Cops of The Obama/Clinton international diplomacy team run in circles, trip over each other and instinctively do and say the wrong things at every turn. This is a consequence of turning our educational system over to a pack of boneheaded leftists. Any educational system which considers mendacious landfill like Zinn's 'History Of The American People' an appropriate history textbook is bound to produce 'leaders' who are so completely clueless and blind to their own country's interests that they shamelessly move from gaffe to gaffe. These geniuses have no concept of history or realpolitik and are so steeped in the broth of their own elite smartness that they have abandoned common sense and the basic rules of behavior in a situation like Egypt's. The Best And The Brightest are now telling us that a group that used to be run by Ayman Zawahiri and Omar Abd el Rahman is secular and non-violent. The Secular Brotherhood. Right. The Egyptian tourist industry is dead for at least the near future. Their agriculture doesnt raise half enough food to feed the 80 million people of Egypt. They have no natural resources. The situation is ripe for a Somalia-like chaos with millions dead.

 

JOHN4OMEGA

3:21 AM ET

February 11, 2011

Right on!

Extremely well put, Skep 41! Your insight and common sense is refreshing! I couldn't agree more with your analysis.

 

ALMANZOR

1:43 AM ET

March 1, 2011

SKEP4 is way off the mark

Thank God SKEP41 and his cheerleader aren't in charge of the country at this moment, and that these particular bonehead liberal elitists are. Although it sounds like he has a problem with educated people, not necessarily liberal ones, since George HW Bush, his son, and a slew of Republicans were also Yale men. Jesus, he sounds like Christine O'Donnell or Sarah Palin.

As Robert Kaplan pointed out, Obama had to accomplish two contradictory goals in Egypt, namely, back the winning horse (the protesters) while simultaneously signaling to the rest of the US's allies that he would not abandon them. How did Obama betray the US's interests there? Should he have encouraged Mubarak to mow down the protesters, and thereby alienate the entire Arab world and give a boon to al Qaeda? Not that the Egyptian army would have done such a thing, mind you, since they knew very well that the protesters were going to win, which is why the entire army, from the top leaders to the soldiers on the streets took such a conciliatory tone with the protesters and tried to appear as though they were on their side.

It's true that Mubarak kept a lid on a can containing some very bad worms in Egypt. Some of these charming individuals have been released from prison, still more will be. But this revolution, which was planned years in advance, was not to be stopped by the US or anyone, not without the slaughter of thousands of innocent civilians, which would have tarnished the America's reputation for generations.

Obama's done a pretty good job, and that's coming from someone who didn't even vote for him.

 

John Hudson reports on national security and foreign policy from the Pentagon to Foggy Bottom, the White House to Embassy Row, for The Cable.

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