Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 1:43 PM

The Obama administration is ignoring, and thereby enabling, the Russian government's gross abuse of human rights and its gutting of the country's democracy, according to Russia's former Prime Minister Mikhail Kasyanov.
"We have no democracy at all. We don't have any future of a democratic state. Everything has been lost, everything has been taken from the people by the authorities," Kasyanov said in a wide ranging interview with Foreign Policy. "The power has replaced all institutions ... like Parliament, like independent judiciary, like free media, etc. That's already obvious for everyone."
The former Russian head of government, who was ousted by current Prime Minister Vladimir Putin in 2004, is on a mission this week to send a two-fold message to U.S.-based Russia watchers: that the upcoming elections next year in Russia will not be free and fair, and that the "reset" policy of the Obama administration has wrongly caused the United States to abandon its role as a vocal critic of Russian democratic and human rights abuses.
"We would like our friends in the West, in Europe and the United States, those who are interested in a democratic Russia... we would like these friends just to open their mouths," Kasyanov said, explaining that he will meet with academics and experts at the German Marshall Fund, the Council on Foreign Relations, Columbia University, and other places. He neither sought nor was granted any meetings with U.S. government officials.
Kasyanov said that he supports the substantive aspects of President Obama's reset policy, such as cooperation on non-proliferation, but that a parallel track should be established to simultaneously exert pressure on Russian leadership to adhere to basic standards when it comes to human rights and freedom of expression.
"I would wish the reset process would become a little bit more principled, rather than closing its eyes to everything that's going on Russia in the sphere of public life and in the sphere of civil society," he said. "You shouldn't just change your principles, the values your government is standing on."
He said that U.S. diplomats at various levels of the Obama administration are ignoring negative trends in Russia in the hope of avoiding even minor confrontations with the Kremlin that might upset the warming of bilateral ties.
"They just don't criticize anything, they don't produce any reports on any unacceptable developments... It's not principled, now it looks like the administration closes it eyes on anything that's going on in Russia," he said.
Right now, independent organizations are not allowed to participate in elections and virtually no new political group has been allowed to register itself as a recognized entity since 2004, according to Kasyanov. There is undue pressure on Russian non-governmental groups, such the arrest and trial of organizers who displayed a controversial art exhibit at the Moscow's Andrei Sakharov Community Center, a case that is now being referred to the European Court of Human Rights.
France and Germany are meeting with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev on such issues, but they are operating under the illusion that there could be some significant break between him and Putin on such issues, according to Kasyanov.
"What we need is just general support from the West... We need moral support," he said. "Right now, [Russian citizens] feel that Americans have just given up on Russia, that they are not interested at all."
Kasyanov dismissed the working group on human rights being led by the NSC's Mike McFaul and the Kremlin's Vladislav Surkov. McFaul explained the Obama administration's approach to Russian human rights in October 2009, saying, "We came to a conclusion that we need a reset in this respect too and we should give up the old approach that had been troubling Russian-American partnership."
"This Commission blah blah blah discussing human rights, that's imitation, that is not useful operation. That shows to Russians that the U.S. government has chosen a different path, not human rights and democracy. It's absolutely the wrong thing to do," Kasyanov said.
As for his take on the relationship between Medvedev and Putin, who some see as increasingly divergent on key issues, he explained, "Their relations are very simple, boss and senior assistant who temporarily occupies the position of president of the country."
When asked if he thinks Putin will run for President in 2012, he said, "I wouldn't say ‘run,' just step in."
UPDATE: A State Department officials confirms that Kasyanov was offered a meeting with Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Dan Russel, but that the meeting didn't happen due to scheduling issues.
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The US is hardly in the position....
....to be chastising other regimes for human rights abuses. I don't know if the former Russian prime minister has been living in a hole for the last nine years, because he obviously seems to be unaware of recent human rights abuses by the US government. Although some might say that we're not so bad because we don't officially do things such as electro-shock to the genitals, we need to remember that numerous prisoners in places such as Bagram Air Base have died under our custody as a result of the beatings they received from prison guards and interrogators. Murder is the ultimate form of torture, and nothing can excuse these abuses. They are a stain on the face of America, and until we address these abuses, none in the international community will take heed of our reprimands. It's a situation of the pot calling the kettle black.
you're response is very black and white
I think the reality of this situation is that the world is grey. Yes, the U.S. should hold itself to a higher standard, and the deaths of prisoners while in U.S. custody are indeed a stain on our country. However, calling them murders is a bit of a stretch, and the fact that since the military is simply a cross-section of society, there are bound to be a few bad apples that take things to far. Murder and torture of U.S. prisoners could hardly be construed as u.s. policy, and we prosecute heavily those that we find are involved in such acts. Another consideration to be made, is that the U.S. is currently at war (undeclared) but war nonetheless. World war two and vietnam saw much worse atrocities committed at the hands of U.S. soldiers, and yet we still championed human rights back then...yet somehow, now we no longer can until we "clean up our act"? Russia has a human rights abuse record that is perhaps unrivaled in the modern world, from the cossack revolution, to the purges to Putins clever control of the media russia indeed needs to be chastised whenever there is a chance to do so. If the U.S. won't stand up and raise it's voice to russia...no one will. We have made mistakes, but we strive to correct them. and for the record, detaining terrorists and interrogating them for information is hardly human rights abuse. rather, human rights abuse is what happens when those same terrorists throw acid in a girls face when she tries to go to school. The more we lock away the better...throw away the key.
I have to agree with Count, this isnt the time to be preaching. It is true that if US doesn't stand up to Russia, no one will... but would speaking out against Putin really do anything but cause more strain on the US? You must know Putin is by and large a Russian hero/Icon... I really dont know why, but he has the hearts of majority of Russians. US speaking out wont do anything but feed anti-Americanism and the sense that US is trying to coerce Russia. Russians are a proud people, with majority of Russians for putin, speaking out would only stir more trouble. This is not the time for liberalist projects, US is being challenged on all fronts to remain the worlds superpower, it has greater things to be concerned about, most notably the economy.
Besides, this issue really needs to be solved by Russia, its hard since Putin is believed to actually have put out hit orders on reporters (and been successful) who do thier job, and jail people who speak out against putin. Russia can only be changed from the inside out, not from the outside in. Some people in Russia believe such actions are actually good for the country, it keeps everyone unified, others believe its US killing reporters trying to frame Putin, and those who are arrested are supported directly by US. The perception shift has to come from within Russia. Granted, there are those who are against Putin and remain silent or some even speak out.. but thats where the change needs to start.
I hardly think my response is "black and white"
I mean, it's fairly reasonable to expect us to practice what we preach. How is that an unreasonable demand? And your differentiation between Russian and US policies is simplistic at best. Torture in its various forms was systematic in many prisons housing suspected terrorists or Taliban members. What other conclusion could be reached when one hears that atrocities were committed not only in Guantanomo Bay, but also Bagram Air Base, Abu Ghraib, CIA black-sites (I am referring to the one that was discovered in Lithuania), and the countless other sites in various Arab countries in which we know CIA agents oversaw the torture of prisoners. Then we have all the extraneous renditions, detentions of journalists, indefinite detention of "suspected" terrorists (most of whom have been released for lack of evidence), CIA drone assassination programs which have targeted Americans suspected of supporting terrorist organizations, etc. etc.
Then there's the actual wars themselves, which have destroyed the lives of thousands of US servicemen, hundreds of thousands or Iraqi and Afghan civilians, and wrecked untold devastation on the countryside itself. I mean, do you realize that many of the children born in areas of Fallujah and other war-ravaged areas have gross birth deformities as a result of the uranium-depleted shells that destroyed their very houses? Don't forget the thousands of Iraqis that will be mutilated and killed from unexploded cluster munitions. And all the result of an illegal, immoral war of attrition.
For anyone one from USA to speak about Russia's faults, has first to look into its own back yards.
1. Where is democratic right of Latino minority of USA , 60 million, to educate themselves in their mother tongue ????? What kind of democratic country is that, when it is not allowing its such huge minority to have universities in their own language ??? In almost every country of the world minorities are allowed that.
2. Where is autonomous region for Latino minority in New Mexico, Texas and California ??? In New Mexico 45 % of the people are Latino. How come there is not autonomous region for them within that state ??? In any country of the world such huge minority has its own autonomous region, if not republic for itself.
So please, just stop saying all that bolshiit about your democracy. You look stupid and cynical when you say something like that. No one in the world is that much stupid to believe it.
Mikhail Kasyanov had the equally same human rights record then Putin and no one talks about that huh? No one talks how he tried to forge his way into presidency? or how he stole governmental property?
@HURRICANEWARNING:
World is white on US side and black everywhere else.
"Murder and torture of U.S. prisoners could hardly be construed as u.s. policy, and we prosecute heavily those that we find are involved in such acts"
Yes, innocent until proven guilty, even though when they proven guilty they are already dead.
"If the U.S. won't stand up and raise it's voice to russia...no one will"
And who made US the justifiable force behind it ?
"information is hardly human rights abuse. rather, human rights abuse is what happens when those same terrorists throw acid in a girls face when she tries to go to school. The more we lock away the better...throw away the key."
Google "History of black people in United States"
hahaha, okay, okay. That caused quite a stir. I think we need to stay on topic however. Alot of you attacked certain words, or phrases in my response, but only one of you offered anything new, that could actually be construed as a rational argument to my point. Point being, WE ARE AT WAR. Why is it that people dont realize this? Ask anyone who has served, or works in government/ intelligence...they will tell you the same. Civillians die in war, it is not something we want to happen, and indeed, no country has ever done more to prevent civillian casualties while engaged in war than the U.S. That really is not an arguable point. Also,, those people we are "torturing", they are 90% enemy combatants, who we pick up from the field of battle, or catch red handed. Certain abuses occured under the bush administration, but no longer, and now cases of torture will absolutely be prosecuted. That's because we have a FREE press that keeps us acountable as a nation. Guys, no nation is perfect, I have no notions that the U.S. is perfect, its not , and never will be. we make mistakes, big ones. But ultimately, how people and countries etc are judged is by how they react to mistakes. We probably shouldnt stir up the hornets nest in Russia practically speaking, but morally speaking we can and should chastise them. We are a better country than russia, thats not an opinion, that's a fact. Almost everything about the U.S. is superior to the Russian Federation, including our government. and that's really not an opinion, guys, lets be honest about it. Where would you rather live? Russian winters not withstanding. The point here is you all are saying that the U.S. should back away from its percieved responsibility to protect human rights internationally because we might be accused of being hypocritical? That's a terrifying notion. So then who will speak up for the people being oppressed in/by Russia? Maybe change will happen form within. but then you will get a group of people who will ask us, much as the Iranian students did recently, why didnt you stand up for us? why didnt you stand by your values? And we will say...what, we felt like hypocrites so we didnt say anything? moronic. we have a responsibility, based on our position of power in the world.
....staying on subject is quite hypocritical on your part since you are the one who respond to almost every point that i suggested for you to look over again. Besides I am not attacking your opinion but rather look into holes in your opinion.
"WE ARE AT WAR"
The last "war" that America has fought was WWII. (no, Iraq resolution doesn't count)
"Civillians die in war, it is not something we want to happen, and indeed, no country has ever done more to prevent civillian casualties while engaged in war than the U.S"
Forgot Vietnam ?
"Certain abuses occurred under the bush administration, but no longer, and now cases of torture will absolutely be prosecuted. That's because we have a FREE press that keeps us acountable as a nation."
I believe that wikileaks is more accountable then all of your media combined.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghan_War_Diary
"But ultimately, how people and countries etc are judged is by how they react to mistakes."
Then i guess giving weapons to militants in Afghanistan back in the '80s and thus creating the terrorists groups within Afghanistan of today was quite a bummer, coups of over 35 countries and thus raising anti-american sentiment in them for past 120 years, and so on and so forth. I honestly can write a book about it.
"The point here is you all are saying that the U.S. should back away from its perceived responsibility to protect human rights internationally because we might be accused of being hypocritical? That's a terrifying notion."
Once US lives for 10 years without doing anything that they would be accounted for in the negative way then Ill believe in notion that it actually not hypocritical.
"Maybe change will happen form within. but then you will get a group of people who will ask us, much as the Iranian students did recently, why didn't you stand up for us? why didn't you stand by your values? And we will say...what, we felt like hypocrites so we didnt say anything? moronic. we have a responsibility, based on our position of power in the world."
When US couped the Iranian government for 5 times in the last 60 years no one in US thought it was hypocritical. US and Saddam were the bestest buddies in the '80s while being fully aware of his human rights record and weapon stashing. And "why didn't you stand up for us?" answer is ironically "US national interests>US values, people who live in that country, the effects of those interests, ect"
You honestly still don't see the point that I am trying to make.
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