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The chatter about when Defense Secretary Robert Gates will leave the Obama administration picked up again Thursday when the Washington Times published an article speculating that he will retire in April, 2011, after unveiling the fiscal 2012 budget.

Predicting Gates's departure is one of the most popular parlor games in Washington. Gates used to carry a key chain with him at all times that ticked down the days until Jan. 20, 2009, when he had assumed he would hand over the reins of the military and return to private life. But with that date long gone, nobody really knows when Gates will leave - including, it seems, the secretary himself. He's taken on some major projects that he wants to see through, and the White House is imploring him to stay because they depend on him to oversee two wars abroad and defend the administration's policies at home.

But eventually, Gates will step down. Based on interviews with officials, staffers, and experts, here is the current short list of potential successors, along with an assessment of the strengths and shortcomings they would bring to one of the most challenging and important jobs in the world. Here they are, in no particular order:

 

The brains of the Pentagon: Michèle Flournoy

Under secretary of defense for policy

Flournoy is the odds-on favorite for the job. The third-ranking official at the Pentagon now, she represents the Defense Department at deputies meetings at the White House, has led the Pentagon's major policy initiatives, such as the Quadrennial Defense Review, and is well respected across the board, making her a logical choice to be the first woman ever to take the top job at DOD. Working against her is her relatively low political profile in Washington and a lack of the kind of international star power that is often needed to deal with powerful foreign leaders. Some say privately that she needs some more experience before reaching cabinet-level status, although few doubt she could do the work ably.

 

The rock star: Hillary Clinton

Secretary of State

Speculation about Clinton moving from State to DOD began this spring, based more on the media's fascination about the idea than any hard evidence either she or the White House is contemplating such a move. The possible benefits are obvious: The administration doesn't have anybody more famous on its roster besides Obama, she's knowledgeable on military issues having spent years dealing with them in Congress, and the uniformed leadership respects and trusts her. But Clinton is often said to be considering retirement after leaving Foggy Bottom. Her able stewardship of the State Department has alleviated concerns about her management abilities that resulted from her presidential campaign.

 

The establishment choice: John Hamre

President of the Center for Strategic and International Studies

Hamre, a former deputy secretary of defense and the current chairman of the Defense Policy Board, is a nonpartisan expert, by all accounts brilliant, whose decades of involvement in the defense establishment have put him on the short list for SecDef multiple times. As the leader of a top think tank, he has stature in Washington, and is close enough to industry to keep the trains running on time while being independent enough to take on the Beltway bandits when necessary. The question about Hamre is whether he would take the job if offered. He took himself out of consideration in 2009 out of loyalty to his CSIS staff. If not Hamre himself, Obama could look for a similar figure, a senior policy leader who shares the quiet confidence and steady demeanor that have made Gates such a success.

 

The warrior legislator: Jack Reed

Rhode Island senator

On paper, Reed is the perfect choice. A Democratic senator who knows more about the military than almost anyone in Congress, he's got the substantive chops to do the job. As a former Army ranger, he could win over the services as well. But going from running a 50-person Senate office to running a 4 million-person organization is quite a leap and nobody can know if Reed has the managerial skills to pull it off. He's also privately communicated to those close to him that he's simply not interested. He likes being a senator and representing the people of Rhode Island, so speculation about him may be a nonstarter.

 

Always the bridesmaid: Chuck Hagel

Former Nebraska senator

The Obama administration has been trying to give Hagel a prime posting for a while. He's reported to have turned down several sweet offers, including ambassador to China and director of national intelligence. He does serve as a co-chair of Obama's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board. In Hagel's favor, he's a Republican who won't bend to the GOP talking points of the moment and he's high-profile enough to fill the chair. The fear is that his independence and his penchant for veering off message in a Biden-esque way make him too risky to entrust with such a prominent perch. Moreover, if Obama chooses another Republican to lead DOD, many will begin to question whether the Democratic national- security bench is too thin or if Obama is wary of putting someone in his own party in charge of the wars.  

 

The Sacred Cow: Sam Nunn

Former Georgia senator

Nunn, like Hamre, is always on the short list and is said to have lobbied hard for himself the last time this job was up for grabs. Nunn is a living legend in national-security circles; his work on nonproliferation and loose nuclear material was taken up by Obama himself when the then-future president joined the Senate. But Nunn is 72 years old, and his window of opportunity may simply have passed. The same could be said of his 78-year-old partner on nonproliferation issues, sitting Indiana Sen. Richard Lugar.

 

Passed over but not forgotten: Richard Danzig

Former Navy secretary

Danzig, one of Obama closest advisors during the 2008 presidential campaign, was widely speculated to become defense secretary in 2009. As the story goes, when Obama ultimately decided he wanted Gates to stay on, Gates requested that Danzig not be named the Pentagon's No. 2 because he didn't want to cause confusion by having a "secretary-in-waiting" right next door. Now, more than a year later, Danzig remains on the outside looking in as chairman of the board of the Center for a New American Security, but his ties to Obama persist and we're told privately that he's been promised a cabinet-level position when the big turnover comes. That doesn't mean defense, but Danzig is rumored to have turned down another cabinet-level post before, so it's not clear that offering him Homeland Security or the U.N. job would suffice. On the merits, Danzig is more than qualified, but many worry that his extreme intellectualism and iconoclasm are just not conformist enough for a White House that likes people who stay within the lines. His legendary Winnie-the-pooh speech is often cited as an example of this phenomenon.

 

The dark horse: David Petraeus

ISAF commander

Yes, that's right: Petraeus could be a candidate for defense secretary. He's the man Obama and the world depend on most regarding the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. He's a brilliant scholar, a master tactician, and a seasoned diplomat. He would be confirmed by the Senate unanimously and would be able to hit the ground running with the full support of the military, sharing Gates's vision of where the Pentagon needs to go. Sure, his selection would raise serious questions about civilian control of the military, and he would have to take off his uniform before being eligible for the job. But if there's any man who could pull that off, it's Petraeus. Plus, Obama could continue his practice of taking potential challengers out of contention for November 2012 (for the record, Petraeus has repeatedly and emphatically denied holding any presidential ambitions). Congress would also have to change the law that requires military men to wait 7 years before heading up the Pentagon.

 

Honorable mention: Leon Panetta

CIA Director

Panetta is getting a reputation for being able to navigate the national security bureacracy with skill and savvy. He has experience in the White House and on Capitol Hill, where as House Budget Chairman he played a role in what evenutally became the budget surpluses of the late 1990s. He has successfully defended the power of the CIA while keeping Congress on his side.  If selected, he would be the second former CIA director in a row to take over the Defense Department.

 
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AMERICAN SON

2:06 AM ET

July 31, 2010

The Next SecDef

Please....don't ruin our weekends with some of your picks....please!

The only ones acceptable from your list are:
Leon Panetta
David Petraeus
Richard Danzig
Chuck Hagel
Jack Reed
John Hamre.

Sorry Michelle, you are up and comng, and smart, but would you say No? Keep up the good work where you are.

As for the rest: we might as well just raise a white flag.

We want someone who is strong enough to say no when push comes to shove; and smart enough to know the score. And the score is complex.

One might conclude that I am not a fan of the New Start Treaty. I am not. It should not be ratified. The Senate should study the whole matter before we take a wild-eyed jump into the future, without people realizing that there is a cliff. If a comprehensive study were made without the rose-colored glasses the treaty would be dead in the water. As for New Start, start over. And study everything first. It's strategic.

 

ZATHRAS

7:37 PM ET

July 31, 2010

I could see Flournoy, Danzig,

I could see Flournoy, Danzig, Hamre in that order, but I understand why the Obama administration would prefer to keep Gates. There aren't any other Cabinet Secretaries who have President Obama's confidence in the way Gates does. No one is even close. His departure would leave a much larger place to fill than the departure of any other member of Obama's Cabinet.

That emphatically includes Hillary Clinton, who has a seat at the Obama administration's foreign policy table and presided over no major scandals at the State Department but who clearly does not run this administration's foreign policy. To do that, she would need the President's confidence, and she doesn't have it, not the way Gates has had. I notice also the reappearance in The Cable of a longstanding theme in commentary about Hillary Clinton: throughout her career, she has been regularly and sometimes effusively praised as intelligent, hard-working, collegial and able, by commentators who omit any discussion of her accomplishments. Anyone think there may be a clue here as to why she does not have Obama's confidence as Gates does?

 

AMERICAN SON

2:14 AM ET

July 31, 2010

Sorry Michele

Michele: Excuse me for misspelling your name above. And my keyboard does not have accent marks.

 

AMERICAN SON

2:28 AM ET

July 31, 2010

Question over Time Stamp

The time stamps are wrong on these posts. I am posting this, right now, at 10:21 EST. Look at the time stamp. Why is so far off?

 

AMERICAN SON

2:23 AM ET

July 31, 2010

Time Stamp

It is now 10:22 EST on July 30th, 2010. Lok at the time stamp. It is wrong.

 

NSA47

3:01 AM ET

August 1, 2010

Rogin, you are Clinton-enthralled

"Her able stewardship of the State Department has alleviated concerns about her management abilities that resulted from her presidential campaign."

Huh? Name one foreign policy issue that she owns. Compare with Rice -- Iraq, Russia, Iran, etc. And previous.

As far as management, not sure how you get to able stewardship -- it's a cult of personality incarnated as 30 special envoys all running in different directions. It's actually a lot like the campaign.

Just be cause she and her folks stroke you doesn't mean you have to insert breathless praise wherever you can. You'll still get access if you just produce good journalism.

 

RICK EVANS

4:08 PM ET

August 1, 2010

Rice, really, you brought up Rice.

Rice was a Russian expert and oversaw the worst diplomatic relations we had with Russia since the Cold War. Iraq was a Defense Department issue. It was not until Clinton came in did State Department took the lead in redevelopment. She did not accomplish anything with Iran either.

The praise for Clinton is not foreign, it is rooted in her grasp of the issues and her relationships with foreign leaders and top military brass.

Michèle Flournoy is an attractive candidate, but does anyone outside of the Pentagon know her?

 

NSA47

5:06 PM ET

August 1, 2010

missing the point

I didn't say Rice did anything particularly well, but she owned those issues. Clinton keeps State at the table but doesn't lead. Taking back something so obviously not-DoD as reconstruction doesn't count as remarkable leadership. And "grasp of issues" and relations with others are characteristics, not accomplishments (at least they haven't really turned into any -- int'l cooperation on Iran, Afghanistan, Burma, AQ, etc.)

Bottom line: anything Rogin says about Clinton and Clintonites is overly positive to ensure his continuing access to them.

 

PREPARE2MILLABOUT

4:00 PM ET

August 2, 2010

Rice and DoD: Too much of a love story

Secretary Rice willingly ceded several State Department authorities to the Department of Defense during her tenure. For instance, U.S. military assistance to foreign countries should have remained a State Department responsibility, but with her support for 1206 (Section of the FY2006 National Defense Authorization Act) which gave over to DoD important foreign train-and-equip funding authority and decision making responsibilities, she added to the long list of diplomatic authorities handed over to the Strategies and Tactics crowd.

 

RICK EVANS

4:55 PM ET

August 4, 2010

Erroneous charges.

Your whole premise was Rice accomplished something during her tenure and that she led on the issues. You mentioned that Rice led on Russia and Iran and I countered that during her tenure she oversaw the worst diplomatic relations with these countries in decades. That is NOT leadership, especially for the Secretary of State. She never accomplished anything with Russia or Iran. There was a reason the U.S. had the (botched) reset campaign with Russia. There is a reason Iran is still moving full speed ahead with their nuclear program. You claim that Clinton is not leading on anything well that is categorically untrue. She is leading on China, Russia and women's issues. It is clear now she is pushing the President to take a harder line against Iran. 18 months into her tenure, it is difficult to assess her accomplishments, but to say she is not leading on anything or as not accomplished anything is disingenuous. Does this make her a good SecDef candidate? No. But she is certainly on my personal list. I can't think of anyone with the same gravitas, command of the issues and relationship with the military and foreign diplomats as Clinton. Secretary of Defense is arguably the most important cabinet post during our time of war and we will need someone who fits the mold mentioned above. I'm very much in favor of Flournoy, Hamre, Hagel and Reed. But, I would not discount Clinton based on your erroneous charges.

 

WFCNTWK

6:09 PM ET

August 5, 2010

NEXT S.O.D.

I know how important logistics are and a eye for small details...That means experience on the job?! Also I'd like to see a vietnam vet this time, because he or she knows what it takes to fight a long war (Vietnam has mcdonalds and Burger Kings now)?! After all the fight against Al Qaeda isn't like going to a church picnick?! My pick would be an weapons expert, a tactical master, a scholar, and a certified killer?! John Kerry. Don't make the same mistake twice?!

 

Josh Rogin reports on national security and foreign policy from the Pentagon to Foggy Bottom, the White House to Embassy Row, for The Cable.

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