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Israeli ambassador stands by comments on Goldstone Report
Israel's ambassador to Washington, Michael Oren, today stood by his recent opinion article that compared the writers of the U.N.-sponsored Goldstone Report, which accuses Israel of war crimes, with Holocaust deniers and asserted that the report's writers were portraying the Israeli government as Nazis.
Oren's article, published Oct. 6 in The New Republic, has ignited some controversy online and in Washington. In it, he wrote (emphasis added):
The Goldstone Report goes further than Ahmadinejad and the Holocaust deniers by stripping the Jews not only of the ability and the need but of the right to defend themselves. If a country can be pummeled by thousands of rockets and still not be justified in protecting its inhabitants, then at issue is not the methods by which that country survives but whether it can survive at all. But more insidiously, the report does not only hamstring Israel; it portrays the Jews as the deliberate murderers of innocents--as Nazis. And a Nazi state not only lacks the need and right to defend itself; it must rather be destroyed.
Speaking to The Cable today, Oren defended the comparison.
"I think there is a parallel between Holocaust denial and denying Israel's right to the means and the ability to defend itself," Oren said, adding that he wasn't trying to say that the violations alleged of Israel in the January Gaza operation were of the same character or on the same scale as the Nazi atrocities.
Speaking this morning to a packed audience at the Hudson Institute, a Washington think tank, Oren more extensively criticized the Goldstone Report, which will apparently be discussed at the U.N. on Oct. 14, warning that it could set a precedent that could result in U.S. troops being charged with war crimes for civilian deaths in Afghanistan.
On a separate issue, Oren said that Israeli and American negotiators were close to a deal on the issue of Israeli settlement construction as a precursor to a resumption of peace negotiations.
"The settlement issue as a major flashpoint has greatly been removed," Oren said, referring to the ongoing discussions, which include the visit of U.S. envoy George Mitchell to Jerusalem today.
"They have reached significant progress on the idea of a time-limited freeze that would not really impact Jerusalem and that would provide for a certain amount of normal growth construction," Oren said, adding that as of today there is no final agreement on the length of the freeze or the specific parameters.
He said the Palestinian side was still not happy with the proposed language, however.
Oren also reiterated that that U.S. President Barack Obama had promised Israel that the current engagement with Iran would not be open-ended and said that Israel was working with the United States on a package of sanctions for if and when the talks failed.
"In the prime minister's meeting with the president in the Oval Office [in May], the president assured us ... that the engagement would be limited, that there would be a reassessment at the end of the year," Oren said. "On the basis of that pledge, the prime minister came out and supported the president's policy of engagement, with that proviso that it would time-limited."
Subsequent developments, such as the disputed Iranian election, have spurred "a growing willingness on the part of the [Obama] administration not only to put limits on the engagement but to talk seriously about putting together a package of what Secretary of State Hillary Clinton called ‘crippling sanctions' against Iran," Oren added.






Oren is not the only Israeli to make this argument
No less a left wing stalwart than David Grossman made a similar argument in an interview with the German magazine Der Spiegel:
08/10/2009 01:40 PM
SPIEGEL INTERVIEW WITH AUTHOR DAVID GROSSMAN
'Foreigners Cannot Understand the Israelis' Vulnerability'
"...'The World Denies our Right to Retaliate in Principle'
SPIEGEL: But you were not against a military operation in general?
Grossman: All my life I have tried to prevent the use of military power, but I also insist on Israel's right as a sovereign state to defend itself when attacked. It is strange that Israel is the only country that is immediately criticized when it retaliates after years of rocket terror.
SPIEGEL: Perhaps because the scope and strength of this reaction were disproportionate?
Grossman: The world denies our right to retaliate in principle. At the same time, the government in Jerusalem conducts a war which leads to many civilian victims. It is a tragedy that we believe we have to constantly decide between total pacifism and monstrous violence. My hope is that we shall find an adequate language for the complex situation between us and the Palestinians.
This guy amazes me
Born American and turned Zionest Last thing I read in FP from him was why make peace with the Arabs we win ever battle so we will ust continue to take what we want. Now Im see he wants the west to support a new war against Iran and he is angry because talking is taking to long..... it is a good thing he had to turn in his american citizenship papers to take this post. People like him and Liberman will lead the world down a path of no return and they are not even real Isrealis Just Zionests from out side the middleast
the rockets
were for crippling sanctions israel imposed on the innocent people.
maybe they should lift their illegal blockade?
The only problem with your claim Freeda2
Is that the rockets were being fired every day after Israel pulled out of Gaza in 2005.
Indeed, prior to the violent HAMAS coup that kicked the PA out of Gaza, Israel had agreements with Egypt and the EU to provide monitoring of Gaza's border with Egypt so that arms didn't flow through. In addition, the borders between Gaza and Israel were still open.
And yet, the rockets still flew.
I remember that during the second to last HAMAS "victory" parade in Gaza, one of its trucks, loaded with rockets, detonated during the parade route. Despite the fact that it was just another "work accident" as they are called, HAMAS declared that the explosion was the work of Israel, and let fly barrages of rockets at Sderot. It was only weeks later, after the violence, that HAMAS owned up to the facts.
Given that HAMAS is wedded to the philosophy of destroying Israel and killing its Jewish citizens, one should hardly be shocked that Israel is not going to take a soft line with the Islamist 'resistance/terrorist' group.
Remember too, that HAMAS has had an out from day one. Israel and the Quartet have repeatedly stated that all HAMAS has to do to end the blockade is stop its violent actions, stop its incitement to violence, and accept the previous agreements signed by Israel and the Palestinian Authority.
HAMAS has repeatedly rejected this proposal, and continued to fire rockets at Israeli civilians.
Israel has the right to defend itself
Hamas has been using the Gaza Strip as a launching pad for its terrorist attacks on Israeli civilians with an ever increasing intensity and geographical range.
For over 8 years, tens of thousands of civilians in Israeli towns and villages within rocket range of Gaza had been living under the terror of rocket fire, suffering casualties, destruction and emotional trauma.
Let´s assume for a moment the
Let´s assume for a moment the Goldstone report was not about Gaza.
I wonder, what would be an outcome, UN HR Council was sending same Goldstone's "fact finding mission" to Afghanistan, to those areas controlled by the Taliban. With no doubt such a mission would find a huge amount of evidences for the war crimes and crimes against humanity committed by the Coalition forces. But UN Security Council keeps prolonging a mandate for those forces in Afghanistan. There are no double standards at all!